Charles Hussey phoned me to discuss our requirements of a bibliographic module.
Off the top of my head, we meed a mechanism of finding published material at the article level (that which you would cite in a paper). It would be valuable if there were meta data such as the taxa mentioned, the page where they are mentioned, the location of protologues, the location of figures, and so on. These meta data could be added by specialists while working with thematerial and are not a requirement for 5.3 unless they are already available.
I would also like a mechanism to rationalise (normalise) bibliographic lists by assigning some form of LSID to a particular publication.
The content pointed to by an LSID should be returnable in a form to be imported into a reference manager for local use. This implies a set of equivalence tables for author spellings, journal abbreviations and so on. Ideally we should get to a position for Zoological literature that TL2 has achieved for Botany, then bringing both codes up to the present day.
We would like to be able to incorporate citations for which we have no electronic access, such as are assembled by specialists in revisions. This will inevitably cover a number of obscure publication that might not feature in the BHL's scanning programme for quite some time.
These are my thoughts, but I think it might be useful if WP6 started a thread to this effect on the WP6 site. I'm not sure that we can afford a face to face meeting with the Berlin team on current budgets, although we could organise a UK-based meeting and you could visit Berlin separately.
Thoughts, everybody? Shall I create a section on the web site to consider this? Charles has to produce an outline in the next couple of weeks.
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Bibliographic requirements
Wed, 2007-04-25 15:00 — daverobertsDear Charles, Cc EDIT WP6
As you can see, there are a lot of issues here and I am sure different communities will have different goals and expectations for 5.3. As I see it 5.3 is about providing access to literature rather than managing information about literature, though the two are closely linked. The overwhelming message I hear from WP6 is that people want to quickly access articles (i.e. individual publications) and not just journals. I have head some people want page level access (specifically the WP5 team in Berlin have talked about this) though I think this will be very difficult to achieve. Also article level access assumes we have the articles somewhere online, and for most communities this is not the case, at least not yet, and certainly not with any rights management (at least not of the kind the NHM would need). In the absence of providing access to articles, you want to tell people where they can physically go to get a physical copy of an article. But since libraries don't generally store article level information, it is hard to see how even this can be done.
All I can really talk about are my needs, which are very close to those of Dave Roberts. However, our communities are reasonably sophisticated when it comes to bibliographies - most are not. Personally we have all the louse bibliographic references online (about 9,000) and am serving OAI metadata about them. We've also scanned most of the taxonomic works (at least about 3,000 so far) which are accessible online. Shortly we will be moving the PDF's to a DSpace server based in Switzerland that is issuing GUID's (specifically handles) for them all (this is in conjunction with the ant literature that is also online). At the moment we just references articles via their web URL. Like Dave I would like to be able to discover articles we haven't scanned and link to them from my online bibliography (there are ways to do this automatically). In effect I'd like to create e virtual library of articles I could access, but I would want to do this on mass for my all literature - not an article at a time. I would also like tools that helped clean up my bibliography (de-duplicate it and spot errors plus normalize its contents more efficiently). Again it is possible to do this but I suspect this is beyond what 5.3 is capable of - at least in a way that scales. I've blogged about how this can be done and just submitted a grant application that would facilitate this.
I would be keen to hear from the other WP6 groups about what they would like, but remember literature management tools are something the rest of WP5 is doing. WP5.3 is about accessing literature, and in this respect I see then as a kind of gate keeper.
Vince
Bibliographic requirements
Wed, 2007-04-25 15:00 — daverobertsDear Dave,
you wrote that we need a mechanism of finding published material at the
article level. I am not sure whether you were only thinking of material
that is available online or paper material. For paper material about
insects the Zoological Record works very well. The main problem is that
it is not available for free. The Zoological Record cites the taxa and
it would be nice to also get the page where they are mentioned, but this
is not a priority.
I agree that it would be nice to have tools to search for taxa in books
and articles which are available online, but then you have to separate
between material which is available for free and the articles you have
to pay for.
I see the need for LSIDs for references, too, and would like tools to
clean up bibliographies (find duplicates, spot errors, normalize)
For my group (Diptera: Milichiidae) there are only few taxonomic works
available online. And for me it is more a question of solving the
copyright questions and to start scanning. In this respect it might be a
good idea to have a tool (like an image database) to which I can upload
the files, add metadata, and maybe also add LSIDs. But we need to
discuss who should issue LSIDs. The libraries (which library?)? The
journals? The group which has assembled a bibliography (like Vince
want's to do)? How are we going to deal with different LSIDs for the
same reference (like Linnaeus).
Best wishes,
Irina
Bibliographic Requirements - Survey
Thu, 2007-05-03 15:02 — CharlesHusseyMay I say thank you to Dave, Vince and Irina for their helpful comments. All this brainstorming has resulted in an online questionnaire which everyone in the EDIT Community is invited to participate - so tell your friends and colleagues! I shall also extend the invitation via the TAXACOM and TDWG listservers.
The survey can be found at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?A=193016818E830
I shall run the survey until Friday 11th May and shall then start writing the requirements report.
Of course, in addition to the questionnaire, further debate on this forum would be most welcome!
NOTE: E-ViTL is likely to be a resource discovery tool rather than a repository of full text articles. It could, however, point users to repositories, such as the Biodiversity Heritage Library (http://bhl.si.edu/), online journals and other sources.
There is some debate over whether E-ViTL should attempt to provide reference management functions, in addition to providing access to literature. Also, whether it should be a repository for reference lists, rather than a portal to search distributed repositories. However, the purpose of this survey is to gather user requirements and, although it is unlikely that E-ViTL will be able to incorporate all possible requirements, your views will provide a useful pointer for future development.
Thank you all for your interest.
Charles Hussey
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